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news alert out of indiana. at any moment we could learn the results of an autopsy on a woman's body found in a creek outside of indianapolis. test -rs needed to determine if that decomposed body is that of missing indiana university student lauren spierer. she was last seen on the campus of indiana at bloomington on june the 3rd. she was out for a night of drinking and partying. you mentioned the body that was found, a badly decomposed body of a female in a creek about an hour from the university. lauren is not the only woman missing in that seven facility. there is a 74-year-old great grandmother, dorothy may heard
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who was missing. this body may be that of miss heard. investigators are trying to determine exactly who has been found. lauren's parents are appealing to her school friends urging them to come forward with information about what happened to lauren. several of those friends have hired attorneys to help them in the event that they one day face charges in this case. again, those autopsy results could come at any moment. we'll keep you posted as soon as we learn anything. jon: thank you, rick. and a good tuesday morning to you, post 4th of july holiday. i'm jon scott. patti ann: and i'm patti ann brown in for jenna lee. we are on verdict watch in the casey anthony murder trial. the jury deliberating for its first full day. the seven women and five men spent six hours discussing the case yesterday. jon: of course they are charged
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with deciding whether casey anthony, the woman you see there, killed her 2-year-old daughter, or if, as the defense claims, little caylee drowned in the family pool, an accident that snowballed out of control. phil keith live in orlando for us. casey anthony's attorney was not in court this morning. why, phil? >> we don't know. apparently jose baez was running a bit late, as all of the spectators were exiting the courtroom after the judge asked the jurors whether they had headed hiheeded his admonitionst discussed anything about this case after they were released from court last night at 6:00pm. everybody left, the jurors went back into the delib kraeugs room. then jose baez walked by, maybe they got caught in traffic or were taking care of something unrelated here. casey anthony herself seemed
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quite animated, maybe agitated talking about dorothy simms one of her other defense attorneys in the courtroom this morning. once the verdict is in eventually, of course that is the big question, how soon that is going to come, afterwards the jurors who do want to participate in a public press conference, they will, and here is the room, this is a live feed from the axillary room. this was the overflow room during the trial, because every seat was always taken up every day of the six-week trial. this is where people from the media would go in there and watch the direct feed from the courtroom. it's now been converted to the jury post verdict news conference room. you can see the 12 jurors will know their seats by the placard, and whether they all show up or just half of them do, we don't know yet. that will be up to them. but it certainly will be a riveting and intriguing post-verdict news conference to find out how this jury comes to the conclusion that they are right now trying to come to.
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jon: if they come to one, let's hope it's not a hung jury. you showed us that video a minute ago of casey in court this morning, very animated, chatting with her attorney, but she also, i know, had an interesting reaction during closing arguments yesterday. >> yes, she was visible over there at the defense table throughout all of the trial, and the closing arguments, during the closing arguments sometimes she would shake her head no, sometimes she would look down at the floor as crime scene photos of caylee were up there. but watch her lips, specifically try to read her lips here as linda drane burdick the prosecutor was basically talking about the whole accidental drowning incident. >> throw cindy into the mix too as a possible perpetrator, because casey anthony would have you believe that if this is all her mother's fault any way for leaving the ladder down. let's twist the knife in my mom a little more.
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>> you can see casey's lips saying, i never said that. there was another moment during the closing arguments where they were trying to dispell the whole no, sir that george anthony, the father of casey anthony and according to the testimony a very loving, caring grandfather was absolutely not involved. and you could see casey anthony's lips again, it appeared she said, it is his fault. very telling stuff inch 0 side e courtroom. we are getting word that the jury is taking a little break right now. they are free to take breaks whenever they want to. the judge, belvin perry jr. gives them that latitude. they're having a little break. maybe it's a 15-minute break. walk a round a little bit, get some fresh air. they'll have lunch at some point. during the breaks and lunch they are not to talk about the case. they are only allowed to talk about the testimony, and the
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seven count indictment against casey anthony when they are in the deliberation room. we are eight and a half hours into deliberations, jon. jon: how do we find out when the verdict is reached? >> reporter: once the verdict comes in the court will quickly send out an email to everybody, then we'll all know within roughly a minute or two, all of the attorneys, casey anthony of course will be taken, she is staying here on the property of the courthouse. there is a detention room where she's held under of course the watchful eye of orange county sheriff's deputies. she is there all day, because everyone needs to be assembled in that courtroom within 30 minutes. that is judge belvin perry's order. so as soon as we know there is a verdict in, mark your clock, 30 minutes after that we will have the jury re-enter the courtroom, and then the clerk of the court will actually read the verdict, and the seven-count indictment. jon: phil keating live for us in orlando. thank you.
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patti ann: the jurors have a lot of work to do after 33 days of testimony and more than 400 pieces of evidence which are now in the jury room. susan constantine is a jury consultant who has been inch vieinsidethe courtroom for moste trial. she has been watching the jurors very closely. hi, susan. >> good afternoon. patti ann: these jurors are from the tampa bay area, they were brought in, they are sequestered, away from home and family. they have to be tired by now. what impact does that all have? >> it has a lot of impact. after that many days they probably feel like they've been imprisoned by the court. at this point in time there is a lot of average station that kind of goes on, and some some of them it's like i just really want to get home. i feel like what is happening here is that at this point all of this information, all of this evidence that they've heard, they are going to compartmentalize it and come down to the basics, why they are
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there. and you know what, these are not what i would call graduate degree jurors. most of them are low to middle income workers. they don't have a mass amount of information or knowledge about scientific evidence, so they are going to probably come up with their own stories of what happened, and that is the dangerous part, because they really need to follow the law. so even if all of these legal arguments that we hear about in the jury deliberations, these are just average, every day people, low, middle income earners, that are going to s*euft through the evidence. most of it overwhelming and they are not really going to dive deep into it, and they are going to go right to the simplicity. duct tape, not 31 days, it was concealed in a baggy and thrown into a private area into the woods. that's really what it will come down to. patti ann: if she is convicted of first-degree murder the death penalty is possible, they are
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told to keep that separate, but does that weigh on their minds? >> i've got to tell you they've got the weight of, you know, of an elephant sitting on their shoulders. quite frankly after listening to what was said during voir dire i don't see but maybe one or two that says, if i had to impose the death penalty i could. but you've got all the rest of the jurors that are saying, no, man, i can't do that. you know, i think there is going to be a compromise. she may get second-degree murder, and not even know that it's going to rise to the level of a death penalty case, but at that point in time it really is out of their hands. patti ann: right so you are a courtroom observer, you've observed specifically how these jurors are dressed. what are you deducing from that? >> well, during the entire time, for the last two months most of them dress very casually. they've been sitting there for hours, some of them are wearing khaki pants and little polo
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shirts and things like that. today, from what i understand, that they were in their best dressed. and also i talked to judge alex and he sailed they were dressed yesterday too in nicer clothes. it may be that right now at this point in time we're down to business. and right now we're punching the clock, it's business time and they are in business attire and the deliberations begin. patti ann: some of the men wearing suits, interesting. susan constantine, jury consultant, thank you. jon: talk a little debt crisis now, the battle lines are drawn, the talking points crisp. the looming debt ceiling crisis edges closer to a deadline. at stake the ability of uncle sam to meet his financial obligations as the nation's debt continues to skyrocket past the $14 trillion mark. is there any room for common ground among democrats and republicans.
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jim ingl has an update. >> reporter: democrat -ts are pushing for increased revenues and have talked about all sorts of deductions they'd like to stop. but they don't add up to much money. for instance they point to tax ducks for race horses, that is only 126 million over ten years when they are looking for 2 to $4 trillion in cuts. they also how old about tax breaks for corporate jets. that's about 3 billion over ten years. ethanol aol 2 billion. subsidies for oil companies, 40 billion over ten. all a drop in the pubt. the president focused in part on taxes in his radio address on saturday. >> if we choose to keep those tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires or for hedge fund managers and corporate jet owners or for oil and gas companies pulling in huge profits without our help, then we'll have to make even deeper
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cuts somewhere else. >> reporter: the problem is the democrats are proposing to go after people at much lower incomes at a million. they want to limit tax deductions for couples making $250,000 a year. that would yield over 200 billion over two years but it is not in keeping with the president's declaration of going after millionaires and billionaires. there is one big change they are looking at. it's how a company detubgts the parts for its products and computes its profits . that would yield 70 billion over ten years. the small business administration of the obama administration warned that would result in tax increases for small business that could ultimately, quote, force many small businesses to close, and they are the ones that create most of the jobs in the country. that's why republicans argue tax changes should happen outside these shots and in comprehensive tax reform discussions, but the president tphaoetd needs revenul
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spending cuts to democrats, and that's where things stand right now. jon. apbz a search is expanding off mexico's baja, california after a fishing trip went deadly wrong. a search continues for 7 missing tourists missing at sea. jon: rick perry breaking quarterly fundraising records. what does it mean for a possible white house run for the texas governor? we'll take a look in our political power play just ahead. let's go to rick folbaum at wall. >> reporter: you tell us what story you like the best. we have three of them. we like them all. you can find them on the "happening now" home page. are you more interested in hearing about love letters that were written by michael gordan that have ended up in the wrong hands. these were letters he wrote back in high school. you want to hear about a guy found in his suitcase, a very
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strange story. there he is. and then we also have a story about a van that imploded, by itself. go to the "happening now" home page and let us know what story you want to hear about, and we'll have more of "happening now" after a quick break. dad, why are you gettit?t? is there a prize in there?
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trip went terribly wrong. at least seven americans are still missing in the warm gulf waters. rick folbaum is watch breaking news for us today and has an update. >> reporter: this is interesting. at first authorities in mexico said they were close to calling off the search for those missing americans, but now they've reversed course, they are actually expanding it as you said to some 60 miles beyond where they know that fishing boat went down. we have some video that i've got on my ipad of the search operation that is going on right now in mexico. it was a violent storm system that is called a flash storm that moved through without warning. most on board that boat were sleep at the time. those who were rescued held onto life vests and rather and floated for about 16 hours before they were found. those still missing include 62-year-old mark dorland from twainhart, california. he is said to be married next month. his see fan saye says he was one
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of the first people to go into the water and was not wearing a life vest at the time. the boat went down so quickly only about two miles off-shore. as we said the search is being expanded mainly we're told because the water temperature about 77 degrees could apparently allow someone to survive for a long period of time, and that of course gives hope to the dorland family and others who have loved ones who are still missing off the coast of mexico. as we get more information we'll bring it to you guys. jon: later in "happening now" we'll be talking about the wife with son of the men who was on board that fishing boat. she has quite a story to tell. patti ann: texas governor rick perry has broken fundraising records, raking in a record $22 million in the last quarter, no not for a white house run, it's part of his job as chairman of the republican governor's association. and now perry's ability to bring in so much cash for fellow governors is dispelling concerns about his ability to fund a
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presidential campaign if he decides to throw his hat in the ring, and that is the subject of today's power play. chris stirewalt is fox news digital politics editor. governor perry as head of the governor's association raised the record 22 million in one quarter. what does it do for his clout? >> remember this is own after year, it's harder to raise money at this time. under perry's leadership the rga raised twice as much as he would in a comparable cycle in 2009 or 2007. it's a lot of money. it shows he has national reach like haley barbour his predecessor in tapping deep pockets that fund republican candidates. and the other thing it does, this is very important, it demonstrates that perry is going to have strong support from his fellow governors if he decides to run. he's doing them a solid, he's taking care of business in his job, they are going to like that. patti ann: the governor's association does tend to make a
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presidential endorsement as a group. i understand they were leaning towards tim pa lengthy or mitt romney, both former governors, this change things? >> perry's presence himself changes things. he is an active governor and leads the association. he's the longest serving governor in the country. certainly that changes it on its own. fact that he's taking care of business as i said is going to make his fellow governors feel at ease. remember governors like to nominate governors, that is their mode and the governor's association endorsement is important in that regard. patti ann: they like to endorse governors because they feel they have an understanding of states issues. >> when you boil it down to its basic reduction, perry is a states rights guy. patti ann: the 22 million exceeds what we had from hailey barbour, he was very influential.
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can we expect perry to exceed that? >> he is an insider from washington, former head of the republican party who went back to mississippi to serve. he's both sides of the coins. what this represents is for perry, an outsider who can make an inside play. patti ann: now chris is going to head over to area and he's going to host his all-star politics show, power play live. we know a lot of you are online when you're watching. you can find the link on our home page at 11:30 eastern or log onto jon: shepard will be hosting our coverage as space shuttle atlantis lifts off for the last time expected to be the final flight of the shuttle program, you do not want to miss it, 11:00am this coming friday. well the stimulus, remember that? it saved or created nearly
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2.5 million jobs, so we're told. but at ha price? the obama administration just released a new report with that price tag. you won't believe how much each job cost you the taxpayers. also, we are on verdict watch in the casey anthony murder trial. jurors are deliberating. a decision could come at any time. we will keep you updated. [ male announcer ] the network -- a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more amecans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... f greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. it's the at&t network... motorcycles, boats, even rv's.
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jon: i'm jon scott here in our acquisitions room at fox news channel where we bring in hundreds of satellite feeds from all over the world. take a look at remote 252 shuttle astronauts, that is the scene you'll see on friday as they board the shuttle for the last shuttle flight. we're going to be seeing that for you, we'll have an update ahead. also, on remote 280 there is a live look inside the jury room, we are getting an update from
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the casey anthony trial. no verdict yet, but when is does happen that is where jurors will be meeting the media. then on remote 261, beautiful day in washington, the senate is back in session, called back early from what was supposed to be their 4th of july holiday. the senate will be talking about that debt and deficit agreement, if they can come to one. let's hope. patti ann. patti ann: a white house report shows the president's stimulus plan saved or created nearly 2.4 million jobs, but at a cost to taxpayers of 666 billion. and that means each job cost the country more than a quarter of a million dollars. mike emanuel is live at the white house with unemployment at 9.1% this massive stimulus package, of course, is a possible target. mike, they released these numbers late friday at the start of the holiday weekend, not so happy about these, perhaps? >> reporter: well,. patti ann: teif you havebad newn
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a friday afternoon but certainly leading into a holiday weekend. $278,000 per job is the math if you break it down over the course of 2.4 million jobs, and so bottom line when the administration was selling the stimulus package there was a lot of buzz about shovel-redding jobs, putting people back to work. well we had a very candid moment with president obama when he was meeting with his jobs' council last month. take a listen. >> shovel ready was not as shovel ready as we expected. >> reporter: so, it was a light moment with president obama, but a lot of american taxpayers at a time when we are so concerned about the federal government debt may not be laughing about it at this point because at least from the white house's report it doesn't look like the stimulus created as many jobs as would have been hoped when it was sold. patti ann: yeah and that 2012
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race is heating up. you can bet the president's opponents will be bringing up the stimulus numbers. is he going to be on defense on this? >> reporter: there is no question republicans crisscrossing iowa, new hampshire are going to say that the stimulus was a failure. the president's camp we expect will say that things would have been much worse without the stimulus. we will get a chance to hear what jay karen me has to say about this report, the white house press secretary when he briefs reporters about an hour or so from now, but what we've heard from them in the past is that we were on the edge of a total meltdown of the economy, and so this helped save the economy, but the question is whether the american voters will buy that, as this is certain to become a big topic in the 2012 race. patti ann: mike emanuel live at the white house, thanks. jon: deadly anti-government protests rage on in syria. the regime's bloody crackdown claims more victims just today. this as we get a firsthand account of the brutality.
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jon: brand-new developments in the deadly protests that continue to rock syria. syrian troops fired on activists killing at least three. they are the latest victims in a bloody crackdown that have claimed lives of some 1500 people. we are getting a firsthand account of the regime's brew tpalt from a witness to the mass massacre. >> reporter: media restrictions make it impossible to find out what is really happening in syria. an estimated 10,000 syrians have fled across the border to
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turkey. a few have made it as far as the united states. one exile has told us his chilling story. 3:00pm april 15th in a northern syrian city. troops open fire on antigovernment demonstrators. it's a day this 21-year-old will never forget. did anyone have guns, any of the demonstrators. >> no, no, no. >> reporter: cellphone video on the internet shows him moments before he was shot in his right hip. at least ten other protestors were also hit. >> they start shoot us like rain. >> reporter: the bullets were like rain? >> yeah you can't hear the bullets. >> reporter: he is lucky, not only did he survive but after sneaking across the border into turkey he flew to relatives in brooklyn, new york. out of the regime's reach he
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talks freely about syria's president. >> he killed his own people, he stole from the syrian country. >> reporter: unlike what is happening in libya he says foreign military forces should not get involved in syria. >> i don't want america ornate tow to intervene. i believe the syrian people can do it on their own. what americans need too do is so solidarity with the syrian people and declare that assad has lost his credibility. >> reporter: he also says lebanese-based hezbollah is on the ground in syria to try to prevent the fall of the regime. while we can't independently verify his account other reports do back up his claims. the situation remains very volatile and could affect much of the region. jon. jon: david lee miller, language you.
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patti ann: for couples trying to have children the time it takes to conceive can feel like an eternity. a surprising new study find that women who have gum disease take an average of two months longer to get pregnant than woman with healthy gums. let's bring in dr. steven garner with new york's methodist hospital. thanks for joining us. the average woman takes five months, those with gum disease take seven months on average. that is the same as the difference for someone who is obese. >> that's correct. it's startling. people are looking for fertility tips and things and it may be the two things i'm holding, the floss and the toothbrush. patti ann: very significant tools. >> for nine caucasian people it takes over a year too get pregnant, which is too much time in black women. patti ann: it seems order in a there is a difference there betweeness nice a tees. let's explain the science here for a minute. gum disease forms pockets and in those pockets you can get infection and that can cause
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inflammation that enters your bloodstream. >> we always new it caused heart disease, diabetes, it caused premature birth. there was never a study to chauffeur tilt. actually the bacteria get into the bloodstream and cause the body to become inflamed. all the cells are inch tphrapl ma toro and begin to attack themselves so they begin to attack a baby, they begin to attack even sperm, it affects men too. it attacks organize begans in the body. the trick is if you clean that up you don't have the bacteria and all the inflammation goes away. patti ann: the information thing is if you want to get pregnant you need to get checked out. >> you take your pre mate tal vitamins, you go to the ob and stuff like that, you may get special ovulation medicines. people who are on birth control pills who are going for fertility tests must see their doctor, their dentist to get it cleaned up. it's simple treatment. it may be flossing or they may
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need scaling. but it needs to be cleaned up. patti ann: 10% of the population last gum disease. you get that cleaned up. how long until the rest of your body's inflammation. >> it's almost instant. that's why it's never too late. during the middle of the pregnancy you should get treatment. there has never been shown to be a harmful affect from doing this. the key thing is to be aware of it. you may not bleed or have pain. how do you know you have it if you don't go to the dennis. go and see the dentist at least twao*eus a year. it's very important. patti ann: it's really like your gums are almost the gateway to your whole body. gum disease causes other big problems. >> heart disease, diabetes type ii. tkaoeup two die pete tees is caused by gin gentlema infectio. the baby when it eupl plants the body actually because of that
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excreates chemicals similar to those of an abortion. if you have an abortion to have the baby come out the same chemicals come out. patti ann: wow, there they are, the toothbrush on the floss. thanks so much, jon. jon: the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan already rocky. now a shocking new accusation that could further embarrass the pakistani leadership. we are live with that story. court action in baseball stair e oeud sand cal as a judge makes a key ruling in the roger clemens face just ahead. remember you can take fox news with you. stay updated on what is happening around the world, wherever you are 24 hours a day, whatever your mobile device, get fox news alerts, stream live video and watch the latest clips from your favorite shows. go to and get more information.
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jon: some developing stories we're keeping an eye on here in the newsroom and from our control room. twin terror attacks in baghdad. a car bomb exploding first, an just as folks gathered to help the victims a roadside bomb goes off nearby. at least 35 people killed.
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word today that prosecutors will drop the sexual assault charges against dominic strauss-kahn. the "new york post" reports the dismissal of the case against the former monetary chief is a certainty. this as the mother of a french woman says he tried to rape her is filing a criminal complaint against him in france. thunderstorms going through tucson arizona, knocking out power and uprooting trees. patti ann: baseball hrepbl end roger clemens gearing up for the fight of his life as a federal perjury trial is set to get underway tomorrow. prosecutors accused the seven-time cy young award winner of lying to congress about his use of steroids and human growth hormone. rick folbaum has the story from the breaking newsroom. >> reporter: this case is officially called the united states versus william r. clemens, but to baseball fans everywhere this is the u.s.
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versus the rocket. roger clemens was one of the most dominating pitchers in the history of the game, on trial for charges that he lied when he told congress that he had never used performance-enhancing drugs over the course of his 23-year career, and the trial could get ugly. it is said to include testimony about bloody syringes, even an abscess on thinks back side proving where injections were given. his former trainer says he personally injected clemens with steroids and other illegal drugs all to help him get an edge on the pitching mound. that trial is expected to start tomorrow. we are told now it could be delayed by a day or two. once it does get underway the trial should last about a month. we have been expecting an all-star line up of witnesses including some of clemens former teammates from the yankees. now we are told the judge may not allow those men on the
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stand. whatever happens, this is an embarrassing moment for the sport of baseball shall bu, butd be a whole lot more for roger clemens, if convicted could spend 12 years in prison. jon: new troubles to tell you about about the strained relationship between the u.s. and pakistan. it centers on a top pakistani journalist who disappeared a few weeks ago. there is his picture. now "the new york times" reports pakistani intelligence ordered him killed because he reported that the military had been infiltrated by militant troops. conor powell is streaming live from islamabad. >> reporter: it's no secret that the relationship between pakistan and the united states is at an all-time low after the osama bin laden raid a month or so ago. it's at rock bom rock bottom, ay
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say the isi was involved in a murder of a journalist. he disappeared and his body was later found. this comes as hillary clinton and others are trying to reset the relationship to get it to a new normal. this kind of a nan must quotes in newspapers and leaks discrediting the isi accusing them of murder undermines the relationship they are trying to rebuild here between the oohed states and pakistan. the pakistanis not surprisingly have denied any involvement in the murder and the death of the journalist. it has created a great bit of anger between the pakistanis and the u.s. there is really no effort at this point that you can see sort of any level to reset this relationship. there is a lot of back fighting, point being the finger behind
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the scenes, right now two sides that needed each other desperately because of the war in afghanistan, the relationship is only getting worse, jon. jon: is there any bright spot? i mean any part of the relationship that is improving? >> reporter: there are some bright spots, according to u.s. officials there is a decent relationship between the civilian counterpart, the civilian leadership here in pakistan who reportedly has some what of a better relationship than the military here does. the military has such a bad relationship with the united states it is tough to have anything that would be worse. there is cooperation between the pakistan border. there are very few positive parts of this relationship, jon. jon: conor powell screaming live for us from islamabad. thank you. patti ann: the white house taking up an issue close to every american's wallet, mandatory fuel standards. why automakers say they could
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jon: "happening now" police in indiana awaiting results of an autopsy on the decomposed body of a woman found in a creek over the weekend. police say they spoke to investigators searching for missing indiana university student lauren spierer. she was last seen june 3rd near her apartment in bloomington. with us now forensic pathologist and fox news contributor, dr. michael baden. when the body was first found
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yesterday they weren't able to say officially if it was female. they have determined that it was a woman. >> reporter: oh, yes. jon: you say they have determined whether it's lauren or not. >> reporter: they found her sunday evening. by monday, yesterday they had determined who it was, because if it's lauren the police had obtained the dental records right at the beginning of the missing report, and the quickest way to identify somebody is from comparing dental records with the individual that is found. and if it's lauren they knew that yesterday, and it depends on when they want to give that information out. they tell the family first. jon: of course when i first heard about it i thought, well it has to be lauren, how many other women could go missing but it turns out there is another woman missing in that general area, a much older woman, a grandmother, but based on the state of decomposition they couldn't tell much about this body. >> reporter: they don't want to say anything. the warrants are there before they are sure. and i suspect they are sure now
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and that's why they are making some public statements about this. jon: all right, so obviously, you know, all kinds of questions, i mean we've just been through the whole casey anthony case, we know that little caylee was basically bones when she was found, and that couldn't provide a lot of the answers that investigators and prosecutors might have wanted. when you've got a body that's been in water like this for some time, what can you determine about it? >> reporter: in warm water, in a month she is probably severely decomposed but not bones at this stage. they could determine if she suffered any injur injury that involves the bones, a bullet wound, a stab wound, being hit with a baseball bath or blunt object, even strangulation could be determined, even though the soft tissues are decomposed, the bones don't decompose. they go much more slowly, and they can tell if there is an obvious cause of death, they'll
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know that now when they finish the autopsy. if they have to wait, that is probably because they have to do toxicology to see if drugs played a role. jon: yeah, they would still be able to look for alcohol in the system, for instance? >> reporter: alcohol is the one drug that one should be very careful about because after we die the body creates alcohol from the sugar fermentation, as the body composes. cocaine, bar abou barbiturates,e all good, they stay the same. the amount of alcohol, undoubtedly there will be alcohol in her body, has to be carefully interpreted to distinguish what was in her body when she died and what happened after she died. jon: so, would you -- it would be your expectation that they will be able to figure out what killed this woman, whoever it might be? >> reporter: yes, i think they will, and the father certainly, the parents think that the even
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friends she was with at 4:00 in the morning may know more about it. the same thing came up with the casey anthony case. sometimes if she died of a drug overdose, for example and the friends got -- pan eublgd and put her in the water, that sometimes happens with drug overdose deaths because the friends don't want to be involved in illegal activity . it can make a nonhomicide look like a homicide, and that's what the police have to be very careful about that out there. jon: dr. michael baden let's hope we get answers soon. >> reporter: alcohol is still the number one drug that causes unnatural death in this country. jon: dr. baden, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. patti ann: fox news alert the former number one golfer in the world will miss another major, and rick folbaum has that breaking news for us. >> reporter: for the second straight major tournament in professional golf tiger woods will be nowhere in sight. the former top player and top draw in the sport has announced that he will not be playing in
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the british open when it starts next week. he says that he is still recovering from injuries to his left knee and his achilles' tendon. last week tiger said he hn't even hit any balls in almost two months and that he will not return to competition until he feels like he's a hundred percent healed. he says he doesn't want to reinjury himself and he said he did not know how long that might take. tiger woods is currently the 17th ranked golfer in the world and he has yet to regain his form dating back to when he had to take time off from the sport after that embarrassing episode involving his private life. back to you. patti ann: rick, thanks. jon: we are on verdict watch in the casey anthony murder trial. the jury is on lunch at this moment. geraldo joins us coming up. he has been speaking with her attorney. we'll hear from geraldo just ahead. plus, massive flooding along montana's yellow stone river causing major set backs for an oil spill cleanup operation. we'll get you the latest on what
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jon: we begin this hour with request a fox news alert, rescuers are widening the search area for seven missing american tourists. they've been lost for two days in the waters off mexico's baja peninsula. this after a weekend fishing trip turned disastrous. rick is joining us now with the latest. >> reporter: well, jon, this was supposed to be a holiday weekend of fishing and hanging out with buddies, but that changed real fast when a violent weather system moved through the area where this boat was. most of the tourists onboard the boat were sleeping at the time. it was the middle of the night. and according to those rescued, the boat went under very, very fast, leaving little time for anybody onboard to really do anything to try to help themselves. the lucky ones were able to grab hold of life vests and cooler chests and rescue rings, and they drifted for about 16 hours until other fishing boats found them and began the rescue. you can see some of those who
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were lucky enough to be rescued. nineteen of the tourists and 16 crew members safe, the mexican navy releasing these pictures of them. they look like they're in pretty good shape, don't they? considering what they've been through. seven others, as you mentioned, jon, still missing, and the search has been expanded now, broadened to an area some 60 miles from where the boat sank. mexican authorities are working with the u.s. coast guard to conduct the search, and officials say the warm temperature of the waters there, about 77 degrees fahrenheit, could allow someone to survive for an extended period of time, so there is some hope for loved ones who have some people who are still out there missing, and, again, that search continues as we get more information, we'll bring it to you right here on "happening now." back to you. jon: and, again, later in the hour we'll be talking with the wife of one of the men that was onboard that boat. she has an amazing story to tell coming up. rick, thank you.
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>> we could tibet a verdict at any time in the casey anthony murder trial. hello, everyone, i'm patti ann brown. jon: and i'm jon scott. casey anthony's fate is now in the hands of a jury, seven women, five men deliberating for a second day. so far they have not had any questions for the judge. geraldo has been seen around town with casey's lead defense attorney, jose baez. geraldo, bring us up-to-date. >> reporter: hi, jon and patti ann. i don't want to give you any tales out of school, but i can say that the defense like the rest of this community is rivetted on what's happening in that jury room. they are tremendously relieved that the jury did not come back last night on july 4th. in other words, they are relieved that the jury didn't walk into that room, select a foreman and say anybody disagree this is capital murder? you know, okay, let's go back and tell everyone and announce our verdict on the july 4th holiday night. that did not happen, so we
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didn't get those fireworks last night. they are, of course, in their second day of deliberation now. we are told by courtroom sources that they've reviewed all the evidence by the audio and video evidence, so that will take some time. but i have to say that the defense feels very strongly that if this jury goes through today, if they deliberate through today, theoretically they're supposed to quit at 6:30 although they can request extended hours. but if they go through today without a verdict, then the defense feels that what they are doing is negotiating what exactly it is that casey anthony is guilty of. as you know, jon and patti ann, you've got capital murder in which she faces the ultimate sanction, the death penalty. i've always thought that that was overcharging. i always thought that that was really making an example of her. you've only had two females executed in the entire 150-odd-year history of the state of florida, both of them
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serial murderers, the black widow and eileen wuornos. casey anthony, at least in my view, does not fit in that notorious level, but what is she guilty of? is it second-degree murder in which she could get up to life imprisonment, or is it as i believe -- and this is me speaking -- aggravated manslaughter in which she would get a 30-year sentence? you know, there are women's prisons throughout this country filled with mothers who killed their children, 3-5 american children every day getting killed mostly by their parents, a thousand a year. and what happens is the women responsible, if it is the women, they go to jail, they burn up their youth, they get released deep in middle age, so a 30-year sentence would be appropriate, probably, for casey anthony. but that's what they believe. bottom line, if they go through today, the defense believes that this jury is negotiating a level
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of guilt. there is very little thought here of either a hung jury or an acquittal. but again, jon and patti ann, is it murder? is it second-degree murder? is it aggravated manslaughter? jon: a strange, sad case, and it's finally coming to an end. geraldo rivera on it for us, thanks. you can catch geraldo weeknights on geraldo at large, weekend nights i should have said. be sure to download the fox news application for your ipad. you will get the verdict in the casey anthony murder trial streaming live when it comes in right there on your ipad. patti ann: right now rising waters are complicating efforts by exxonmobil to clean up an oi oil spill along the yellowstone river in montana. melting snow is filling the waterway, and that's making it harder to get to areas damaged by the spill. alicia acuna is live from
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denver, what are they saying about the effort today? >> reporter: hi, patti ann. well, the company says it is performing aerial surveillance of the area right now. additionally, they have people on the ground right now performing ground inspections in areas where it is safe to do so at this point. that flooding you mentioned is making things quite dangerous for crews there, so they have to be careful. the national weather service is predicting that the yellowstone river will reach its highest point today, the flood waters making this whole thing a much bigger mess. exxonmobil's established a unified command to monitor air and quality and address residents' concerns. the response has been divided into zones with active cleanup taking place in the first two zones closest to the spill site. absorbent boom, containment boom and absorbent pads are being used to clean up adjacent to the river. take a listen to the exxonmobil pipeline president. >> we understand this is a very serious event. we understand that we need to get our full arms around where
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the exposure areas are. we have not fully completed that yet, so we continue to look downstream to make sure that we've identified all the areas that we need to address. >> reporter: now, once the flood waters do go down there are eight small boats that are on standby to do more in-depth response. patti ann? patti ann: i understand some residents who live along the river are complaining about health problems? >> reporter: yeah, there are property owners that say they are very concerned about exposure to this crude oil that is in the water and lapping up onto the banks. so far at least two people have been hospitalized for symptoms. residents say they believe they are related to the spill. one river front property owner says his partner was sent to the emergency room after she experienced dizziness, nausea and shortness of breath. michael scott said she was diagnosed with acute hydrocarbon exposure. >> i want to know what we could have potentially been exposed to that's harmful. >> reporter: and exxonmobil
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is saying that any air and water monitoring that they have done so far has not shown any health risks. patti ann? patti ann: alicia acuna live from our denver bureau, thank you. jon: a line of thunderstorms is pushing into the upper plains right now. it could hamper clean-up efforts along the yellowstone river even more. meteorologist janice dean is in the fox weather center for us. >> reporter: yeah. of course that rapid snow melt is also causing major problems along the yellowstone river, and with temperatures pushing 90 degrees, yes, that is going to be a sticky situation. but as jon mentioned, a chance of thunderstorms not only today, but throughout wednesday and thursday which could bring some heavy downpours. so not welcome news and, of course, the flood advisories remain posted for this area around billings. we are expecting the river to start to recede by wednesday, so that's some better news, and we're hoping some of these thunderstorms don't move through the area, but we certainly could have that risk.
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right now dry conditions, but we do have the chance for showers and thunderstorms really from the northern high plains down through portions of iowa and nebraska and then along portions of the gulf coast states. so a quick look at where we could see the potential for severe weather meaning that we could see large hail, damaging winds and heavy downpours. looks like east of the billingsing area but, again, through the northern high plains down through the central plains into iowa and nebraska, the threat of damaging hail, even the possibility for tornadoes. other big story today is the heat. again, high pressure dominating the southern plains. temperatures over 100 degrees in the dallas area, pushing 100 in san antonio, memphis 89, and with the humidity it's going to feel oppressive. this area of the country has dealt with incredible heat for the last several weeks, really the last several months. so we'll continue to monitor that and, of course, the flooding concerns along the regions where the rivers are just continuing to rise.
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jon: let's get a little more green on that map. more or cool colors, j.d.. >> reporter: weren't we just complaining a few weeks ago about winter being so long? jon: i wasn't. >> reporter: i know you weren't. and by the way, jon scott, they were skiing in tahoe on fourth of july weekend. jon: love that. of thanks. patti ann: new developments in the deaths of two american agents, why mexico feels betrayed by a u.s. program aimed at tracking firearms. deadly weapons may have left to the death of a border agent. and what the arrest of one of mexico's most wanted means to finding justice in the deadly ambush of an i.c.e. agent. jon: also, a frightening crash between a truck and a bus leaves dozens injured. what police say happened here. patti ann: and don't miss out on history. be sure to watch our coverage on "happening now" of the final shuttle launch, weather permitting, this friday.
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>> a fox news alert now, and the autopsy results are in indiana, and we're getting word that a badly-decomposed female body found floating in a creek in indiana is not that of missing indiana university student lauren spierer who has been missing since june the 3rd after a night of drinking and partying with her friends on campus. again, a body that was found over the weekend has been examined, and officials in marion county, indiana, say that they matched dental records that were provided to them by lauren's family with the remains that were found in that creek, and it is not a match. now, we had been told that there was another woman who was missing from indiana, and they were thinking that maybe the body could belong to her, that of a 74-year-old great grandmother, dorothy may herd who has been missing since june the 13th. we're also being told the
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remains found are not those of dorothy may herd. we're now being told that officials believe the body is that of an african-american woman although they have not yet identified exactly who that woman is. again, lauren's parents are in indiana, and they're pleading with lauren's friends to provide them with information about what exactly happened to their daughter. but, again, the body found in the creek not that of lauren spierer. back to you guys. jon: some new developments now on a federal gun-running program that allowed u.s. weapons to fall into the hands of mexican drug lords. some mexican lawmakers are now demanding u.s. officials be extradited to mexico to face trial. william la jeunesse traveled to mexico city, he has details for us. william? >> reporter: an embarrassment at home, a growing scandal abroad, jon, as mexico assesses the damage of fast and furious, the operation, of course,
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approved in the washington to flood mexico with guns. and even as casualties mounted, we refused to tell mexico what was happening. well, now many there feel it is time those involved pay the price. 21 dead in sonora, mexico. according to sources, the guns came complement of the u.s. government. >> we weren't giving guns to people who were hunting bear, we were giving guns to people who were killing other humans. [speaking spanish] >> translator: this program was a great mistake at its conception. it is just absurd. especially because human lives were put in danger. >> reporter: this senator is a former cabinet minister and undeclared presidential candidate. he says the u.s. government approved the sale of guns they knew were going south. >> it confirms what many mexicans believe, that there's this conspiracy from the united states to sell guns to mexico. >> reporter: the numbers are overwhelm anything a country where up to 40,000 have died in
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cartel violence. so how many people were killed or injured here in mexico as a result of fast and furious? hundreds, officials say, but the exact number is not known. why? because when mexico attempted to trace those weapons, the u.s. said the numbers did not exist. when, in fact, they did, which is why many here feel betrayed. [speaking spanish] >> translator: i, obviously, feel violated. i feel my country's sovereignty was violated. >> reporter: what angers mexican officials, as leaked memos show, not only did the u.s. keep secret weapons it sent to mexico, it watched as casualties mounted. >> translator: that program is reprehensible in a relationship that should exist between two countries that are partners in the battle. >> reporter: that is why many in mexico want to see those involved extradited and prosecuted for gun trafficking, jon. you know, it's interesting, here in the u.s. our priority is stopping drugs. in mexico it's stopping the guns which are being used, of course,
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to kim -- kill the cops, judges and victims. so imagine the feeling down there when you're number one ally in the fight against cartel is knowingly sending guns that they know are killing people. that's why they feel betrayed. back to you. jon: understandably. william la jeunesse, thanks. patti ann: meanwhile, one of mexico's bad guys wanted in the ambush of a -- an american agent is behind bars. the u.s. had put a $5 million bounty on his head after connecting him to the killing of jaime zapata. zapata was gunned down while traveling on a mexican highway with another american agent back in february. michael braun, the former chief of operations for the dea, joins us. thank you for being with us. as we just said, he was wanted in the death of an immigrations and custom enforcemen official, so how significant is his
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capture? >> well, it's very significant, and it's proof that mexico's winning their fight against the cartels. the arrest of aguilar means that mexico, supported by dea, fbi, i.c.e., atf, other agencies from our government as well as colombian national police have now arrested 22 of their 31 most powerful kingpins, and i would anticipate there will be, as a result of this arrest, that there will be additional arrests in the not too distant future. patti ann: do you expect retaliation from zetas against law enforcement? >> well, patti, i think what we'll see is probably an uptick in violence, not necessarily at the hands of the zetas. they are battling on three fronts right now, they're battling the gulf cartel, they're battling another cartel,
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and both of those organizations will certainly see this as an opportunity to strike. they're most vulnerable now, one of these organizations is, when they lose a powerful leader like ramon aguilar. but also rest assured government forces will step up the pressure against the zetas and dea will as well. so there could be an uptick in violence, but it's important to keep this all in perspective. this is cartel on cartel, or cartel on security force violence. patti ann: tell us more about how aguilar was captured. >> i don't know the specifics. suffice it to say it's all part of a very complex, long-term conspiracy investigation led by, as i understand, led by the dea, strongly supported by i.c.e. and fbi in the our country. but the dea is working very, very closely sharing intelligence with their mexican
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counterparts and vice versa. and this arrest is a real success story as a result of that activity. patti ann: michael braun, former dea official. thank you. >> thank you. patti ann: and for more on this big bust south of the boarder and what it means in america's third war, go to's sister web site, fox news for continuing reports and updates. jon: a brutal beatdown caught on tape. what led to more than a dozen people punching and kicking a man senseless with onlookers cheering them on? is. also, the u.s. senate skips its july 4th break to try to reach a deal on america's debt situation or risk a u.s. default. the one stomachenning -- stumbling block both sides agree could derail a final deal. >> with we've got to cut the deficit, but we can do that while making investments in education and research and technology that actually create jobs.
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>> if you raise taxes, you put a bigger burden on the economy. you make it harder for small businesses to grow. you make it less likely people will buy stuff. and so the economy slows down, and so the deficits you're trying to close by raising taxes actually gets harder to close in some respects. so raising taxes is simply the wrong way to go about closing a deficit. jon: "happening now" presidential candidate mitt romney urging his fellow republicans on capitol hill not to give in to president obama's
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demands to increase taxes as part of a deal to increase america's $14 trillion debt limb. but -- limit. but with a white house-imposed august 2nd deadline looming, which side is going to blink first? be and what happens if no one blinks in this high-stakes standoff? let's talk about it with bob cusack, managing editor of "the hill." everybody supposedly wants a deal, bob, but the president didn't seem to increase his chances last week when he held that news conference and sort of chided republicans, called 'em childish and that kind of thing. >> no, that was a very controversial speech, and right now washington's in a holding mode. i mean, we've got a month before this deadline. i don't think there's going to be any kind of deal anytime soon. both the left and the right are dug in, and it goes right to the philosophical differences between the parties that democrats say we need stimulus, we need to focus on jobs. this deal must be about jobs. republicans saying if you increase taxes, the stimulus
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doesn't work, increasing taxes is not going to create jobs. i think this could go up to the wire, and it may require the stock market to get very nervous to trigger a deal. remember, they were trying to get a deal by july 1. now they have to put the bill language by july 22nd in order to pass it by august 2nd. it's going to be a very, very difficult month for both republicans and democrats. the pressure is on president obama, no doubt about it. jon: one of the big democratic names out there none other than former president bill clinton said how about a mini deal? this and republicans seemed to express some willingness to consider that. is that going anywhere? >> i think so. there's more members and staffers talking about some type of mini deal, but i also think that's not going to be very easy. how much do you raise the debt limit? for how long? how many cuts? you still have a major problem of getting the votes both in the house and the senate. remember, jon, one of the most unreported stories in washington is the distrust between congressional democrats and
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president obama. congressional democrats believe president obama blinked on the tax cut deal in december, and they fear that the president is going to go along with republicans who have really said repeatedly no tax increases. if there is going to be a tax increase on anything if it's a special interest, then you've got to lower taxes on another. so it's got to be tax rev view. democrats say you must raise some revenue, and that's where we are right now. jon: well, if politics is the art of the possible, is it possible to see both sides giving in and compromising in such a way that, you know, the bases left and right are still a little irritated, but the folks in the middle are pretty happy? >> >> well, yeah, no. i think that there is incentive from both speaker boehner, the president, mitch mcconnell, nancy pelosi, they all want to get a deal done. harry reid also saying we must get a deal done. but how -- it's going to work out, how do you appease the left and the right?
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remember, a lot of these members are going to be facing primary challenges, and the tea party's putting a lot of pressure for a balanced budget amendment. how do you get the votes? an easy vote here is to vote no. remember, no congressional republican voted to raise the debt limit in the last congress. how many will vote yes now? conservative republicans? i wouldn't count on 'em. jim demint, rand paul, they're probably not going to be happy with whatever the deal is. jon: well, given the amount of the stimulus legislation, how much money went into that, i mean, if you were able to just cut back that much, wouldn't that make a significant dent in the budget? >> that's right. that's what some republicans are pay pushing for, but democrats saying we need more stimulus. republicans saying that didn't work, but senate democrats put the white house on notice saying this must be about jobs, we must have infrastructure, and it's very interesting that soon after that press conference president obama's radio address focused on jobs and infrastructure. so even if they do have this
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type of infrastructure spending, i don't think you're going to -- they're not going to be calling it stimulus because on the republican side, certainly, that's something they don't want to be talking about. jon: all right. well, as they try to get to some kind of deal on the budget, we're going to be watching those negotiations very closely. bob cusack from "the hill," i know you'll be with us as well. thank you. >> thanks, jon. jon: if you want more updates on the august 2nd deadline, go to your other news source, patti ann: more than two dozen people were injured after a gas tanker rear ended a bus. rescue crews are on the scene attending to the injured. nine people were taken to the hospital. florida police are investigating what caused this accident. thankfully, the gas tanker was empty. jon: we are continuing to watch the courthouse in orlando. jurors deliberating for a second day, they are, of course, trying to come to a verdict in the casey anthony capital murder trial. our legal panel weighs in on what's going on behind closed
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doors. also, the fight between the white house and some of the country's biggest automakers you could wind up paying much more for your car as part of an effort to save a lot of gas. ♪
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patti ann: right now, how high is too high when it comes to mandatory gas mileage? the white house is pushing for all new cars and trucks to average 56.2 miles per gallon by 2025. that is roughly double the current standards. automakers are warning this will cost billions in development costs, and americans will have to pay more for tinier fuel-efficient vehicles. fox business network's lori rothman is here now with more on this. hi, lori. isn't the auto industry already
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facing higher standards for fuel efficiency? >> reporter: that's right, patti ann. two years ago as gm and chrysler were basically hanging on by a thread as part of the auto bailout agreement, those companies agreed with the administration to tighten miles per gallon to 35.5 by 2016. well, now the administration's coming back asking for even stricter, as you said, 56.2 miles per gallon. and it sounds great, huge savings at the gas pump, right? it means according to the administration global warming emissions would be cut by millions of tons per year, also cut oil import by millions of barrels, but the industry says the automakers say, yes, it is technically possible, but as you pointed out, it's going to mean lighter and smaller cars, and there's no guarantee that americans are going to want to purchase these kinds of vehicles. patti ann: well, that's a good point too. [laughter] so what kinds of compromises or credits is the auto industry asking for? >> reporter: all right.
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so compromises, these credits could be anything from solar panels to biofuels, low-polluting air considerer refrigerants, also the auto industry is looking for a review period, they're also charging stations. the auto industry wallets charging stations for these electronic and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. the u.s. is among the most lenient when it comes to mileage standards, lagging as much as ten miles per gallon behind the rest of the world. patti ann: all right. lori rothman of fox business network, thanks. jon: right now all eyes are on the courthouse in orlando. jurors continue their deliberations. they are in their second day now trying to decide whether casey anthony is guilty of murdering her own daughter. let's talk about it with joey jackson, a criminal defense attorney. fred tice is a former federal prosecutor. i don't want to get into the
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guessing game, we don't know what this jury's going to do, but are there rules of thumb when it comes to length of deliberations and which side it favors? fred, let's start with you. >> will well, jon, i think the general rule, i think everybody would agree, is that a quick verdict generally favors the prosecution. but there are exceptions to every case, and i think -- jon: o.j. simpson being one of them. >> yeah, go figure. well, forget that. that's nothing about justice, right? but i think in this case given that there were 110 witnesses, a lot of expert testimony, 400 pieces of evidence, i think it's unrealistic to think that you're going to get a verdict certainly yesterday, i'd be with surprised if you got one today, but i'd like to meet the lawyer who can really tell you when the jury's coming back. jon: yeah. joey, would you agree with 110 witnesses having been heard over these last seven weeks that they're going to be sort of reconstructing everything? you know what, jon? it always depends. simply because there's that much evidence and information doesn't mean that they need to reprocess
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it. in other words, they're in that room, and everyone has an opinion. as you sit down at your own kitchen table, right, in your own family, there are opinions about everything. so there'll be strong opinions on one side or the other. there may be some jurors that want to come back into the courtroom, get some specific witnesses' testimony for which they may have disagreements over what the witness said, for which they may have misconstrued things or, you know, we'll see what happens. simply because there's that much evidence doesn't mean they have to go over it all. i think they're arguing, they're fighting. they've become a family. they've been there for a significant period of time, many have their mind made up at this point. again, it's speck hague, but i think there are certain disagreements about what count she should be held accountable to and, ultimately, they'll come back with notes, the judge will clarify, and send them back to deliberate. jon: it's got to be a relief to finally be able to talk about the job that you are there for. for all of these seven weeks they've been sequestered during
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every break, every even anything the hotel, they're not even supposed to talk about the case that brings them there together. >> no. they're instructed not to. they're not allowed to talk about anything until all the evidence has been presented, and that system works well. but, i mean, again, i understand the not going through all 110, but you have quote-unquote prosecution jurors and defense jurors, and the people are picking out pieces of evidence that they think supports their contentions. and that's going to take some time. jon: yeah. so even, joey, as they're not supposed to be talking about the case, but they are forming opinions about the case. they're figuring out which witnesses they liked, which ones they don't like. how do you as a defense attorney if you see this happening in a jury, i mean, if you see their reactions in the courtroom, what do you do? do you tailor your closing arguments to certain jurors that you're trying to bring over to your side? >> you know what's interesting,
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jon, more often than not you might see a juror or two that you think are sympathetic to you. they may sort of give you a little nod or smile or something like that, and you certainly want to make sure that that juror knows the information, knows what points you're hammering home, and you're hoping that that individual or group of individuals is arguing the theories in the case to the other jurors that are sympathetic to your side. but it's just so difficult to know. you don't know exactly what they're doing. i do agree with fred that you do have your defense jurors, prosecution jurors, they're hammering each other with the points that make sense to them. but at the end of the day, who's going to prevail? jon: two words play such an important role in this, fred, reasonable doubt. how does one person's reasonable stack up against somebody else's? >> well, i mean, the law tells them that it's a doubt that you would use to hesitate in your own personal decision making. i mean, it's very, very difficult to say kind of what's reasonable doubt. and i've told you this from the get go, i think there's a lot of
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reasonable doubt in the state's case on the murder in the first degree charge. i think there's gaping holes in the state's case, i don't think the circumstantial evidence, unfortunately, points to casey who i'm sure did it. so i think there's tremendous reasonable doubt as to the first count, and, you know, whether or not the jury comes back with a kind of compromise verdict on manslaughter, time will tell. jon: so you're saying you don't see a death penalty conviction here? >> you know what, jon? i would be surprised and delighted if they convict her of murder in the first degree and then ultimately sentence her. i'm a big proponent of the death penalty, i'm not sure about it in this case. so, you know, the problem is that you really can't point to one piece of evidence that shows that she did it. jon, you know, yeah. real quickly, joe joey. >> the thought is it's a very circumstantial case, that is true, but there's more than enough circumstances to make sure that the jury knows that it was premeditation. you heard the arguments. they could certainly come back, and i would not be surprised if
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it was murder i certainly because it's circumstantial does not mean it's not so. jon: wow. >> i'm sorry, jon, go ahead. jon: opposing views from the prosecutor and the defense attorney there. >> i know. but, look, when we were prosecutors, how many times did you tell the jury that circumstantial evidence is often better than direct evidence? that's not my problem. it's what the circumstantial evidence points to. >> you know, fred. we use that to our advantage. if it opposes us, what circumstantial evidence? where's the direct evidence? >> okay, what's your point? [laughter] jon: joey jackson, fred tice, thank you both. >> thanks, guys, if or having -- for having me. patti ann: a shocking and brutal beating in chicago, and it's not the first time something like this has happened there. we have a live report straight ahead, and rick folbaum is monitoring your votes for our must-see moments of the day. >> reporter: we're waiting for the viewers to tell us which story you most want to hear
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about at the end of the show today. three to choose from, and it's neck and neck between the guy and the suitcase and the van that blows up on its own. you have a couple more minutes to weigh in. again, the results coming up. you can find the home page of "happening now" at and let us know what you think. we'll have it coming up later. more howe howe when we come -- "happening now" when we come right back. at bayer, we've been relieving pain for over 100 years. and today, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief.
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afternoon on "america live." we'll see you at the top of the hour. patti ann: a brutal attack in the boystown district of chicago, and it's all caught on tape. a mob of people punching, kicking and stabbing a 25-year-old man. and this was the third stabbing attack in as many weeks in this neighborhood. and rick has the story from the breaking news desk. >> reporter: sadly, this is a neighborhood that's become all too familiar with violence, as you said. the third attack in the last three weeks alone, caught on tape. take a look at this video, and you can see very clearly happen to this -- what happens to this young man. 25-year-old man beaten and is attacked, stabbed actually by a mob while a lot of people standing, onlookers, bystanders cheering the gang members on. it's just an unbelievable scene even as this guy tries to get up and get away from his attackers, the mob grabs him and pulls him back and then continues the beating. no one has been arrested in this case, and locals, as you can
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imagine, are outraged. they're demanding action from local politicians, and they've even organized a facebook campaign to take the neighborhood back from the thugs who have been terrorizing people lately. meantime, extra police officers are on patrol, and a community meeting is being held tomorrow night at the local police station. the victim in that video, thankfully -- if there's any good news in all of this, it's that he was treated at a hospital and is said to be in good condition. that's the latest on the situation from boystown, the neighborhood in the chicago. back to you. patti ann: tough to watch. ful rick, thanks. jon: all right. we need some more votes in the our must-see moments of the day. as rick says, it's you decide and we report. we've got three stories up for grabs. go to if you want to know more about the van that spontaneously explodeed? the hmm, we'll give you that option. the other two are also there. check it out.
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jon: "happening now," the search for seven americans lost at sea more than 48 hours now off the coast of mexico's baja peninsula. a freak storm in the early hours of sunday cap sizing their charter boat while most of the 27 passengers onboard were sleeping. those plucked to safety know it could be a lot worse. at least one member of their party did not survive. >> people on the fishing boat, the mexican military and people in hotels and mexican tourism and the u.s. consulate, everybody came in and helped, and, you know, we're really grateful for that. otherwise, possibly we'd still be out there. jon: joining us on the phone
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now, murphy. her husband, lee, was on that boat. what did you find out? what did you first hear about what happened to them? >> lee called me sunday night around 10:00. um, that was the first he'd gotten to a hotel room after, i guess the boat went over at 2:30 in the morning sunday morning, and this was sunday evening, pm, that he called. jon: all right. so, obviously, he was safe at that point. >> yes. jon: but this is an annual trip that these, a bunch of friends get together and do, i take it? >> well, no. there's one gentleman that organizes a fishing trip. so he has friends, friends of friends, people who have just heard about it. um, they do this every year, um, some years lee goes, some years he doesn't. he, um, this is the first year that lee went, they actually went onboard. in the past they would go and stay in a motel on shore. jon: when a rogue wave, and i
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guess that's what this was, turned this boat over -- >> exactly. jon: again, everybody was asleep. it had to be absolutely terrifying and disorienting at the same time. >> are when lee called -- when lee called i was, you know, you go in shock. there were so many questions i had i didn't ask. he stated that he is on one side of the ship, and when it went over, just went over, he was flipped into the sea, came up, he and a few gentlemen where he was were just so fortunate to come up right by a life raft. um, and, of course, it's 2:30 in the morning, so you can't see anything. apparently, it was so fast they couldn't radio anything because i guess the first person that got to shore was, like, 3:00 in the afternoon. no one knew that there was a problem. jon: right. and it was pitch dark in the time that it happened. >> the only good thing was that
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the waters were warm. jon: now, your husband is still in mexico. is that for medical treatment or just to -- >> i don't know. no, they're all there, but i don't know what the reason. i think mainly because he has friends that are missing. jon: yeah. and those are six people, as i understand it, still missing. >> well, we are friends with two. i don't know who else is missing. i only know of two, and they've been friends for 38 years. jon: well, and the hope is that they found something, as your husband found that life raft, they are moping that those -- hoping that those people found something they could cling to. the waters are pretty warm. they could still be okay. >> and i'm told there are a lot of very little islands there, places where they could have somehow got to -- so that's what everyone's hoping for. i mean, it's devastating. jon: murphy ikegami whose husband was on that boat, and he is safe again, thank you. >> you're welcome.
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bye-bye. patti ann: president obama shining a spotlight on american manufacturing, especially in swing states for next year's election. so are more factory jobs the answer to our ailing economy? "america live" debates that coming up. and be sure to tune in friday for our extensive "happening now" coverage of the final shuttle launch. also, your choice for today's must-see moment including the story behind this bizarre picture. this one gets my vote, although i don't think i can vote. jon: we'll let you vote. [laughter] patti ann: okay. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is larry...
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followed by 1 of 7 delicious entrees and finish with something sweet all for just $15. right now at red lobster. jon: two minutes till the top of the hour. time for the must-see moment of the day. >> reporter: you like the suitcase guy, you should have voted. because he lost and now i think he has to stay in that suitcase at least for another day or two. the lead story was the exploding van. this is a very strange story. apparently this is a common occurrence in beijing, china during the hot, warm summer months where medium and large-size vehicles have some kind of a malfunction that allows the vehicles to overheat and then sort of spontaneously comcombust. jon: at the break the suitcase man pulled it out.
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he can climb out of the suitcase now because he actually won. >> reporter: it's my duty to tell you this is a young man who was serving a 20-year sentence for weapons possession in the caribbean . apparently some woman, we don't know the relationship between the man and the woman was trying to smuggle him out of the country by stuffing him into his suitcase. he got out of the jail and got into the suitcase in the fetal position. she was trying to wheel him out through customs when all of a sudden officials noticed that the bag was not exactly rolling very well and that it was actually a little bulky and moving around inside, so they stopped her, opened up the suitcase and there he is. patti ann: was he clothed? >> reporter: i think he was wearing shorts and t-shirt. jon: he would not have been happy if he made it into the belly of the plane that is often not heated. it is pressurized by often not heated. >> reporter: if he's getting out he a 20-year sentence i'm sure

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